Death William Mc Cartney 1872

We know from his son's wedding in 1876 that he is already deceased so we can backtrack and see if he was still alive when the 1871 census took place. We find him alive and well and living in Vennal Street, Dalry. We also confirm James (17 years old) and meet some of his siblings Joseph (21), William (19), Henry (12) and Robert (10).

With the information we have we limit our search to between the years 1871 and 1877. We find his death notice in January 1872. Collaborated information occupation shoemaker, wife Margaret Ward and living in Vennal Street.

Additional information obtained;

Farther Hugh Mc Cartney (Deceased)

Mother Maiden Surname Gordon (Deceased)

Another son John reported the death

Marriage James Mc Cartney and Margaret Carley 1871 Scotland

Taking information from the post "The Start" we have sufficient information to get James and Margaret married.

Facts

From Birth of William in 1877

Name, Surname, & Rank or Profession of Father: (husband)

James Mc Cartney, Colporteur, Byres Kilwinning,

Name and Maiden Surname of Mother: (wife)

Margaret Mc Cartney, M.S, Carley

Date and Place of Marriage:

1876, November 17th, Fairlie

Additional information obtained from the document above;

Took place in the Free Church of Scotland

Both are 23 years old

His father (William) was a shoemaker and is deceased

His mother (Margaret) maiden surname is Ward still living

Her father (Peter Carley) coal miner

Her mother (Mary) maiden surname was Blain and she is deceased

Census Explored 1881 Mc Cartney Scotland

In the post "The Start" several leads were developed that we can now tease out further to either find more individuals or to verify information we currently have starting with the date and location of some of the individuals. The information available gives us enough information to have a look at census information censuses in Scotland took place every ten years from 1841. William's date of the birth was 1877 it is best to step forward to the next census therefore 1881. Information we can use/verify;

Facts

Father: James Mc Cartney, Colporteur, Byres Kilwinning (keep in mind that they may have moved)

Wife: Margaret Mc Cartney,

Son: William, (estimated age between three and five as we don't have the exact date that the census took place) in 1881

Assumptions (be careful only use as supporting information)

They should still be in the area.

William should be the eldest child (Wedding 1876 Birth 1877)

The census extract below meets all the information

Byres Road about the time of the census

to be continued

The Start

Family Tree Mc Cartney/Wynne

The family tree that started it all for me received from Athol Wilkin a cousin once removed in 2006. The tree contains the names of William and Jimmy Mc Cartney my Great Grandfather and Grandfather respectively, using this as a departure point I found my first sold documented proof on the Internet. Individuals with ancestors in countries such as Scotland and England are privileged as there is a mass of information available on line and usually at reasonable prices.

Doing some basic research before you start is a good idea for example the tree gives a date for the birth of William as the second of December 1887 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland. Most of the websites have the ability to search a range of dates if you use a specific date you can select an exact five or ten year date on either side of the target date. A good idea is to start with a greater range and to narrow it down if the volume proves to be too large. When I compared my search results with the document only one entry stood out the day and month agreed but the year was out by ten years this often happens as families often get information slightly incorrect.  I downloaded the birth registration document which turned out to be a treasure trove of information;

Birth Record William Mc Cartney 1877

Name:

William Mc Cartney

When and Where Born: 1877, December Second, 1 Hour 40 Minutes p.m. Westend Dalry:

Sex: M (Male)

Name, Surname, & Rank or Profession of Father:

James Mc Cartney, Colporteur, Byres Kilwinning,

Name and Maiden Surname of Mother:

Margaret Mc Cartney, M.S, Carley

Date and Place of Marriage:

1876, November 17th, Fairlie

Signature and Qualification of Informant, and Residents, if out of House in which the Birth occurred:

James Mc Cartney, Father

When and Where Registered, and Signature of Registrar:

December fourth at Dalry

Several of these entries prove to be invaluable in further research as we now have his parent's names as well as their wedding date the location it took place, her maiden surname and where they lived at the time.  

to be continued...........